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Posted by CosmicBabies 2 weeks ago
Seeking Advice - BTL Options

Hi all,

I’m running the numbers on my buy-to-let property and would love to hear your opinions, experiences, and anything I might have overlooked.

My situation:

  • Current income: £60,000/year (UK tax resident)
  • Property value: £240,000
  • Current Mortgage: £190,000
  • Monthly rental income: £1,400
  • Current mortgage: £1,000/month interest-only (applies to all options)

I want to compare three different management approaches and see the net profit after tax for each.

I’m mainly trying to understand what makes most sense financially. Selling isn't an option at the moment, as the property is more of an insurance policy.

Option 1 – Fully Managed

What’s included:

  • Drafting tenancy agreements + deposit registration
  • Ongoing rent collection & tenant liaison
  • Compliance tracking (Right to Rent, EICR, Gas Safety, EPC, etc.)
  • Routine inspections & maintenance coordination
  • Legislative guidance & landlord support

Fees:

  • Letting Fee: 60% of the first month’s rent (one-off)
  • Management Fee: 9% + VAT of monthly rent (ongoing)
  • Inventory & Schedule of Condition: £180 + VAT (one-off)
Option 2 – Tenant Find Only

Fees:

  • Letting Fee: 90% of the first month’s rent (one-off)
Option 3 – OpenRent / DIY
  • I source the tenant, manage everything myself.

What I’m asking the community:

  • Which option would you choose in my position?
  • Any hidden costs or tax implications I might be missing?
  • From experience, is the “hassle” of self-management worth the savings?
  • Any other creative approaches or hybrid solutions worth looking at?

Thanks in advance — keen to hear from landlords who’ve been through this decision before and can share anything crucial I'm missing?

Would anyone also happen to have a recommendation for a BTL calculator so I can get accurate numbers?

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Posted by rob_matic 2 weeks ago

What net profit are you expecting, really? You are barely covering the mortgage interest after applying tax and the tax credit.

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Posted by CosmicBabies 2 weeks ago

I'm not really expecting profit in this case; retaining the property is the key, even if it's at a loss.

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Posted by chat5251 2 weeks ago

Why? It doesn't make sense.

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Posted by CosmicBabies 2 weeks ago

The situation is I'll be moving into my girlfriends place so if that doesn't work out I have the property as back up.

I'm aware the smartest solution financially is to just sell the property and stick the money into a S&S ISA but I'm simply exploring potential options.

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Posted by Free_Ad7415 2 weeks ago

I get this OP, I would personally do the same even if it made me a tiny loss, especially if I really liked the place.

In answer to your question, I do OpenRent/DIY and have no issues. I rent in a ‘nice’ area to nice people and I enjoy diy, home maintenance and I’m also a professional so very capable of being professional with my tenants and doing a good job of being a landlord.

If you don’t mind that you could give it a go.

Personally I would never ever ever let an agency choose my tenants, no way

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Posted by CosmicBabies 2 weeks ago

Yeah I think OpenRent will be the way to go. I'll live very close by for management of the property anyway so not an issue for me.

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Posted by Sharp_Shooter86 2 weeks ago

Keep in mind that they just said they are a tradesman so have the skills of an electrician, plumber and engineer.

Do you?

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Posted by chat5251 2 weeks ago

I would sell.

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Posted by blizeH 2 weeks ago

Why?

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Posted by Lost-Revolution9692 2 weeks ago

On these numbers you have no choice but to go Openrent. Plus if you are organised and prepared to put some effort in to remaining on top of legislation and prepared to undertake viewings yourself then it’s pretty easy to be fair.

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Posted by chamanager 2 weeks ago

Any additional income you make will be taxed at 40%. It’s almost impossible to make BTL work for higher rate taxpayers nowadays. If you use a company or are a basic rate taxpayer there is more of a chance but even then the numbers are pretty grim.

Personally I self-manage because I don’t really trust agents, they look to screw you as much as they can and I like to know my tenants and keep an eye on my property. And it’s cheaper.

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Posted by Jakes_Snake_ 2 weeks ago

Your ideal. Every buy to let portfolio is backed by a good career salary. All the other numbers don’t matter.

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Posted by Setting3768 2 weeks ago

I don't think the first two options are financially viable.

There's another option where you use an online agent for help with tenant finding. I think openrent offer accompanied viewings amd other extras like that. 

There are loads of BTL calculators online. There's even a gov.uk one. I recommend you use any of them.

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Posted by cwjd 2 weeks ago

Educate yourself on the compliance rules. If you live near the property and are willing to put in some work (if you know what you’re doing it’s not too much. Services like safe2 and hello neighbour (better than openrent IMO) are my go to. Combine with rent guarantee insurance. Most importantly if you do decide to self manage don’t skimp to tough referencing - some questionable tenants find going direct to amateur landlords the easiest way to sneak through their disastrous credit history and proceed to not pay anything!

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Posted by cwjd 2 weeks ago

Also your almost certainly better to run it though a Ltd company. If your not confident with this consider something like getground or provestor

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Posted by psvrgamer1 2 weeks ago

My experience is fully managed has been a nightmare and it's far less hassle to self manage. So option where agent just finds a tenant at 90% of one months rent would be attractive to me.

Other costs not taken into account is insurance, service of boiler and GSC and costs of maintenance such as gardening or repairs.

Future potential costs could be new EPC rules and upgrades to property if not already 'C' or above. Future renovation costs like a new bathroom or kitchen / boiler.

Redecoration costs after tenancies.

Have you approached your mortgage company for permission to change mortgage to BTL and is the interest rate for that known?

I do get why you want to keep your property as a backup home and your realistic that its not going to make you much if any money which is good. Best of luck.

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Posted by stevehem 2 weeks ago

You'll need to get a new mortgage if the current one is for you as the owner-occupier. It will be more expensive.

Any capital gains you might make on a final sale will be subject to CGT, reduced in proportion of time you lived in it as your principal residence.

Only a fraction of your financing costs will be allowable as an expense when computing your net income for tax purposes. You can get around this by setting up a limited company, and selling the property to it, but then you'll have a lot of other costs.

Also, if you buy another house to live in, you'll be subject to a lot more SDLT on the purchase.

Basically, the government is giving you a massive incentive to sell.

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